Bill Tobin obit

Bengals Mourn the Passing of Bill Tobin

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Bill Tobin, who built one of the NFL super teams before ending his 50-year career in the league as a friend and mentor in the young Bengals personnel department that helped shape one of the most recent Super Bowl teams, has died. He was 83.

Tobin, the father of Bengals director of player personnel Duke Tobin, joined his son before the 2003 NFL Draft as an area scout after selecting eight Pro Football Hall-of-Famers during 27 years as an executive with the Bears, Colts and Lions.

A proud, grass-roots-old-school scout who watched 16-millimeter film of that first Hall-of-Famer Walter Payton on a locker-room wall at Jackson State in the fall of 1974, Tobin worked the Southeast and later the Midwest for the Bengals, as well as serving as a national cross-checker and a comforting sounding board into the decade of Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase.

"He was a true NFL success story," said Bengals President Mike Brown. "He was a good person and I considered him a good friend. With Bill, I respected everything he said. I just took it as a given. He had an eye for players and what they would develop into. If he said the guy was a good player, then he was a good player; that's all I would need to know. We will miss him."

Tobin is best known for being at the hub of a Chicago draft room that selected six Hall-of-Famers for the 1985 Bears juggernaut that wrecked the league with an 18-1 record on the way to winning the Super Bowl. And he wasn't afraid to share his experiences with the young staff Duke Tobin has been developing this past decade.

"He taught me a lot. He taught a lot of scouts along the way. He'll leave a lasting legacy," said Bengals director of college scouting Mike Potts. "He did a lot of cross-checks on tape. There's no more trusted eye in terms of evaluation. Not just with the Bengals, but I would say in the whole NFL. Just in the terms of his eye for talent."

Director of pro scouting Steven Radicevic recalled Friday upon his arrival in 2012 from UCLA when Tobin took him into his office and showed him offensive line tape.

"He was one of the best. I was fortunate to start my career in the NFL with him as a mentor," Radicevic said. "He took me under right away. Showed me how to evaluate players. I watched tape with him early on. He showed me what NFL players looked like. He shared his wisdom of the game and knowledge of it. He showed us his ways. I'll always be grateful for that."

Bill Tobin revealed his philosophy in a Feb. 20, 2016 Bengals.com story detailing Duke Tobin's rise in the Bengals personnel department.

"I think the team out here is very similar to what we put out up there (in Chicago)," Bill Tobin said. "We didn't have any bums. We may have had one, but that would have been an accident.

"They were smart. They were tough as nails. They were courageous. They were team oriented. They weren't always the biggest. They weren't always the fastest. But they were pretty damn smart and courageous, stable, and they liked the game."

In the same story, Duke Tobin said of his father, "I'm proud to look at myself as an extension of him.

"We look at players the same way. We like guys that mean a lot to the teams they're on. Guys who elevated the team. Gave maximum effort. Weed out the guys that play because they want to, not because they can."

Bill Tobin grew up on a Missouri farm and when he went to Columbia to play running back for the University of Missouri, he met Dusene Vunovich, his future wife and Miss Missouri 1960. He was drafted in the 14th round by the 49ers in 1963, but played for the AFL Oilers for a year before playing in Canada for a few seasons. Packers new head coach Dan Devine, his coach at Missouri, then called him into the league and a scout was born.

"He loved to scout at his core," Potts said. "A lot of people just want the end result. He loved the process and a lot of the minor details that go into the scouting process. He loved putting that work in and evaluating players and helping put the draft board together.

"The amount of experience and knowledge he had and the talent and skill that he had on top of his work ethic was unbelievable. Even the last year he was working. He was working as hard as anybody and very detailed for a guy like me, that rubs off on you. You can see why he was successful everywhere he went in his career."

Tobin bridged the eras from carrying projectors on scouting trips to using a laptop to punch up video. He's got a ninth Hall-of-Famer in the wings. Although he didn't call the shot on Georgia tackle Geno Atkins in the fourth round in 2010, he scouted him early and often in his region and recommended him enthusiastically.

Bengals coaches also got along well with Tobin. In a 2020 Bengals.com story, former secondary coach Kevin Coyle recalled how they compared notes daily before the 2006 draft and the first-round selection of South Carolina cornerback Johnathan Joseph, a player who became a 15-year NFL standout.

"Bill Tobin always said the toughest position to evaluate is quarterbacks and corners coming off college tape," Coyle said.

The no-nonsense man Coyle kiddingly called "Crusty," had another side beyond the demanding detail man who detested what he viewed as non-essential personnel in the draft room. They just might spill the beans, he feared. He once told a wide-eyed employee, "We had guard dogs in Chicago," but he said it with a smile.

"I can't say enough good things about the guy and how he treated me as a mentor and a friend," Potts said. "I learned a ton just being around him."

On Friday, the Bengals held one of their last draft meetings in the run-up to next weekend's event. Mike Brown couldn't help notice the timing.

"He'd come into my office and we had a talk every year just about this time," Brown said. "He had his list of the guys in his area. I would talk with him not just about the players, but I would ask him about some others. He had a background that was a little special because both of us went back in time and we could talk about the old-time guys that we saw and the impressions they made with us and we could make comparisons to the guys of today. It was fun."

Bill and his brother Vince Tobin both were born on a farm near Burlington Junction, Missouri. Their father Ed Tobin was a basketball captain at the Conception Junction, Missouri high school. The brothers both attended Maryville High School which is 16 miles from Burlington Junction but the family thought their sports prospects would be much better in the much bigger school (they commuted to the school). The brothers who are two years apart in age played on the football teams at the same time both in Maryville and at the University of Missouri football team. Bill played on the 1959 Maryville basketball team that was undefeated until losing the State Class M title game.

Tobin attended the University of Missouri, where he played in the Tigers′ backfield next to quarterback Jim Johnson.

During his time with the Indianapolis Colts, he drafted future Hall of Famers Marshall Faulk and Marvin Harrison. He also drafted Ken Dilger, Tarik Glenn, and Adam Meadows, who would be cornerstones of the Colts offensive line. He also built a team in Indianapolis with Jim Harbaugh, who in 1995 led the NFL in passing and had a very successful run in the 1995 NFL playoffs, including the first playoff win for the Colts since Super Bowl V, a span of thirty years. He drafted Ray Buchanan and Ashley Ambrose, who later started for the Falcons in the Super Bowl.

Tobin was replaced as Colts general manager in 1997 by Bill Polian. Tobin is the brother of former NFL coach Vince Tobin.

Tobin worked as a scout for the Cincinnati Bengals. His son, Duke Tobin, is the team's director of player personnel.

While general manager of the Indianapolis Colts, Tobin gained some notoriety during the television broadcast of the 1994 NFL Draft after being criticized by ESPN analyst Mel Kiper Jr. for picking Nebraska linebacker Trev Alberts with the fifth pick in the draft, instead of Fresno State quarterback Trent Dilfer.

While being interviewed by ESPN later in the broadcast, Tobin famously said "Who in the hell is Mel Kiper anyway?!" Tobin later called a press conference where he ranted about Kiper for several minutes, stating that Kiper had been biased against the Colts ever since they moved from Baltimore, Kiper's home.

Tobin was never the Bears general manager, although he had the responsibilities associated with the job during their Super Bowl season in 1985 as director of player personnel, a title he was given in 1984.

His influence with the team increased greatly after GM Jim Finks' departure left. Tobin was named pro scouting director in 1975 for the Bears under Finks, after beginning his scouting career for Green Bay beginning in 1971.

After the 1986 season, team president Michael McCaskey fired general manager Jerry Vainisi and Tobin was named vice-president of player personnel. He held that title until going to the Colts. The Bears did not have another GM after Vainisi's firing until they hired Jerry Angelo in 2001.

Tobin went on to be the GM of the Colts after the Mike Ditka era ended at the end of the 1992 season.

He began scouting for the Green Bay Packers in 1971 before coming to the Bears in 1975, the year they selected Walter Payton with the fourth pick in the draft.

Tobin was instrumental as the key personnel figure in the selection of players like Wilber Marshall, William "the Refrigerator" Perry, Neal Anderson and Jim Harbaugh. He was involved in the selection decisions of Bears greats like Hall of Famers Dan Hampton, Mike Singletary and Jimbo Covert.

Tobin's brother Vince was Bears defensive coordinator after Buddy Ryan left following the Super Bowl XX title. Vince Tobin died last July.

Career history

As a player:

Houston Oilers (1963)

Edmonton Eskimos (1964–1965)

As an executive:

Chicago Bears (1987–1992)

General manager

Indianapolis Colts (1994–1996)

General manager

Detroit Lions (2001–2002)

Director of player personnel